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John MUSCHAMP

John MUSCHAMP

Male 1509 - 1587  (~ 77 years)    Has 8 ancestors and 1320 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name John MUSCHAMP 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born 8 May 1509 
    • Shown in Surrey vis as 2nd son
      Date given as 1509 in 'Mitcham Pedigrees' probably using Blanch or his source; this also shows 'place' as 'Mychan' - presumably Mitcham. I guess this reflects where he lived not where he was born.
      Allport (1841) citing an old pedigree in the British Museum records:
      "Itm. John my sone was borne the viijth Daye of May the First yere of
      kyng Henry the viijth And his godfathers Sr John legh & Willm
      polkyn & his godmother mris Scott."
    Gender Male 
    Residence Mitcham, Croydon, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • According to the Surrey vis. His older brother Ralph inherited the family property in Peckham.
    Died
    • Living when his brother Christopher Muschamp wrote his will in 1579.
    Buried 18 Jan 1586/87  St. Stephen’s Church, Walbrook, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • I think this is probably his burial. The description of him as 'Gentleman' fits his status as given elsewhere.(From the Greater London Burial index by Cliff Webb, on FMP, from the City of London Burials, 1538-1812, vol. 1), date given as 18 Jan 1587, not clear if OS or NS, but also in Boyd's burial index, with year as 1586, suggesting it was 1586/7.
    Siblings 2 brothers and 1 sister 
    Half-siblings 7 half brothers and 5 half sisters (family of William MUSCHAMP and Elizabeth HARMONDE
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    MUSCHAMP,   d. Yes, date unknown  (2 x Great Grandfather) 
    Elizabeth SANDS,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Mother) 
    Person ID I18885  All | Teresa's direct ancestors
    Last Modified 30 Jul 2022 

    Father William MUSCHAMP, Esq.,   b. 10 Aug 1480,   d. Abt 1542  (Age 61 years)
    Other Partners: Elizabeth HARMONDE;   Agnes SCOTT  m. Bef 1520  
    Mother Elizabeth SANDS,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Other Partners: Nicholas MYNS  
    Married Est 1506 
    • William was married more than once, and the Collectanea topographica et genealogica ('CTG') and The visitations of the county of Surrey ('Surrey vis') disagree about which wife was the mother of William, while a number of children are not assigned a mother by either source.
      Surrey vis. shows Elizabeth Sands as the mother of Raffe and John.

      A book "Collections Illustrative of the Geology, History, Antiquities, and Associations of Camberwell and the Neighbourhood", by Douglas Allport, published in 1841 agrees with the Surrey vis, saying on p.153
      "An old pedigree in the British Museum, gives this account ...
      "William Muschamp, of Camberwell, in co' Surr' maried to his 1 wife, the da: of Scott, but had no issue by her." By "the wydowe of Nynnes," his second wife, he had two sons, Rafe and John; and by his third lady, who is described as "da : of Harman," he had "four more, Richard, Edward, Thomas, and Xpofer, or Christopher, ..."

      I am following this for the moment, for the sons, and assigning the daughters according to where they fall within the sequence of sons. However the account misses 3 sons given in the list of births, two Williams and a Francis. Francis and the older William probably died in infancy; Francis and the younger William can be assigned a mother according to their birth dates, but the older William as well as one daughter Mary were born between the sons assigned in Allport. Mostly both of William's wifes Elizabeth had one child a year, at least for the first few years of marriage. However, between John (son of Elizabeth Sands) and the older William there was about a 3 year gap, and another similar gap between the older William and Mary. One of these is probably due to the gap between William being widowered and remarrying. It seems most likely that this was the second gap, the first may have been due to Elizabeth Sands' health declining. Since neither the older William nor Mary had children if I have assigned them wrongly it doesn't make anyone else's ancestors wrong. Since all sources show Elizabeth Sands, alias the 'widow Nynnes' as the mother of John I hope I am correct in showing her as my 12 x great grandmother.

      CTG shows Elizabeth's surname as Sandys, and mother of Raffe, Christopher, John, William and Edith.

      I hope there may be surviving wills or other documents for members of the wives families which may clarify this.
    Family ID F9623  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Helen GAYNSFORD,   b. Est 1520,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Est 1538 
    • John was married more than once, and the Collectanea topographica et genealogica ('CTG') and The visitations of the county of Surrey ('Surrey vis') disagree about which wife was the mother of which children, each showing the reverse of the other!
      The dates of baptisms of the children and the burial of John's wife Anne seem to point to the mother's being as shown here.
      I hope there may be surviving wills for members of the wives' families which may confirm this.
    Children 8 children 
    Last Modified 30 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F7469  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Anne FRESBYE,   bur. 1572, Mitcham, Croydon, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Married Est 1559 
    • Estimate based on Anne being John's second wife, and John having at least 2 children with his first wife born after 1545.
    Children 3 children 
    Last Modified 5 Jan 2018 
    Family ID F9635  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsResidence - - Mitcham, Croydon, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Francis MUSCHAMP - 27 Feb 1538/39 - All Saints’ Church, Carshalton, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - John MUSCHAMP - 3 Jun 1543 - All Saints’ Church, Carshalton, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - John MUSCHAMP - 11 Feb 1546/47 - All Saints’ Church, Carshalton, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Mistress Jane MUSCHAMP - 3 Aug 1548 - All Saints’ Church, Carshalton, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - William MUSCHAMP - 4 Jun 1554 - All Saints’ Church, Carshalton, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Henry MUSCHAMP - 1 Sep 1556 - All Saints’ Church, Carshalton, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 18 Jan 1586/87 - St. Stephen’s Church, Walbrook, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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