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Lilian Mary (“Lily”) GOATHAM
1919 - 2008 (88 years)
Has 61 ancestors and 4 descendants in this family tree.
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Name Lilian Mary (“Lily”) GOATHAM Relationship 
with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Residence From 1919 to 1925 1, Duvards Place, Pond Farm Lane, Borden, Kent, England 
- Assumed lived in Borden from her birth in 1919 to 1925 (when her mother sought a separation). At 1 Duvards Place at the time of the 1921 census and when her mother sought a separation late in 1925; may not have been at that address her whole time in Borden.
Duvards Place is a terrace of 8 houses on a track just off Pond Farm Lane.
At the time of the 1921 census Lilian was there with her parents and three siblings.
Born 20 May 1919 1, Duvards Place, Pond Farm Lane, Borden, Kent, England - GRO ref: Goatham, Lilian M q2 1919 mother's maiden name: Trice, Milton RD 2a 1374; GRO online index shows middle name as Mary
Actual date from the 1939 register (originally entered as 25/5 19, but corrected to 20th in 1944), place from the 1921 census.
Details from birth registration (image of GRO register entry)
Born at home (the residence of the informant, her mother).
Gender Female Residence 1927 Mill House, Deans Hill, Bredgar, Kent, England - Assuming was living with her mother when her father died.
Occupation 1939 Daily domestic - Living with her mother in Sittingbourne
Died 22 Jan 2008 Eye, Suffolk, England - FreeBMD shows no birth of a Lilian M Wellby, nor another marriage of a Lilian M to a Wellby, so I think this is probably the death of this Lilian M. Wellby.
(From index on Ancestry 'England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013' from GreyPower Deceased Data: Lilian Mary Wellby, aged 88, Death Date: 22 Jan 2008, Residence Place at Death: Eye, England, Postal Code District: IP23)
There are two Eyes in England but it is the Suffolk one that is in IP23.
GRO death reg index entry: WELLBY, Lilian Mary born 1919
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2008 in Bury St Edmunds (7421A), Reg 1A002 Entry Number 128
Probate 20 Mar 2008 Brighton, Sussex, England - From 'Find a will' website
Siblings2 brothers and 1 sister Patriarch & Matriarch 
GOATHAM, d. Yes, date unknown (9 x Great Grandfather)
Sarah Ann TRICE, b. Mar Q 1852, Hollingbourne Reg Dist, Kent, England, d. Dec Q 1886, Milton Reg Dist, Kent, England (Age ~ 34 years) (Grandmother) Person ID I2380 All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), England: Kent Group - subjects of Go(a)tham One-Name Study, All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , All subjects of the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study, The descendants (and other halves) of George Goatham and Ann née Winch Last Modified 19 Apr 2024
Father Percy John GOATHAM, b. Dec Q 1877, Bredgar, Kent, England , d. 24 Mar 1927, The Hut, Pett Field, Bredgar, Kent, England (Age ~ 50 years) Mother Beatrice Ellen May TRICE, b. 16 Aug 1883, Kingsdown near Lynsted, Kent, England , d. Dec 1954, Queenborough, Sheppey, Kent, England (Age 71 years) Banns of marriage From 30 Sep 1906 to 14 Oct 1906 St. Dunstan’s Church, Frinsted, Kent, England - From banns register (image on FMP, viewed 20 Jan 2023)
Married 15 Oct 1906 St. Dunstan’s Church, Frinsted, Kent, England - GRO ref: Goatham, Percy John to Trice, Beatrice Ellen M q4 1906 Hollingbourne RD 2a 1685
Details from FreeREG website (transcribed data)
Register entry no. 93
Percy John Goatham, age 28, Bachelor, occupation: Fruit dealer, father: Joseph Goatham, father's occupation: Fruit dealer
to
Beatrice Ellen May Trice, age 23, Spinster, [no occupation given], father: William Trice, father's occupation: Carpenter
Witnesses: William Goatham, Susan Ellen Goatham
Who were the witnesses? - I guess William was Percy's brother, but I know of no Susan Ellen Goatham, I suspect this is a mistake on FreeREG and should be Susan Eliza, Percy's mother.
(no marriage register on FMP, indexed or to browse, as at 30 Mar 2021)
Separated From 24 Oct 1925 - After a few years of treating Beatrice "unkindly" she left him in 1925, leaving on 24 Oct and applying for a separation order on 7 Nov at Sittingbourne Petty Sessions:
"HOME LIFE WRECKED BY DRINK
Beatrice Ellen Mary Goatham, No. 1, Duvard's
Place, Borden, applied for a separation order
against her husband, Percy John Goatham,
of the same address.
Mr. A. K. Mowll appeared for the applicant,
and said the parties were married at Frinsted
on October 15th, 1906. On the 1st October,
defendant threatened to turn his wife out. On
the 23rd October he told her she wanted pole-
axing and killing, and throwing down a well<
and that he would swing for her. On several
occasions before he had ill-treated her, and
for the larger part of his life he had been
the worse for drink. On the 24th October he
turned her out of the house, and locked the
door on her. Since then he had asked her to
go back, but on these occasions he had been
the worse for drink, and she was afraid to go
back.
Applicant said she had three children, all
under the age of 16. She and her husband went
to live at Duvard's Place about ten years ago.
For the past few years her husband had treated
her unkindly. Three times he had pulled
her out of bed and tried to pull her false
teeth out. On the 1st October last he came
home intoxicated, and told her she was to
clear out on Saturday moring at 11 o'clock.
On the 23rd October he again came home in-
toxicated and complained that the child was
sick, and that she did not look after her
properly. He threated to kill her, and said
he would swing for her. At a quarter to six
the next morning he complained that the boy
was not up. When she got up he slapped her
face. He then had some tea and went away.
He came back in the afternoon, and kept
grumbling and swearing at her. He said she
must go, and pushed her towards the door. She
got her things and went, and he fastened the
door behind her. She left the children behind.
She afterwards went back two or three times,
and defendant told her to clera out. After
the summons he had offered to take her back,
but he was drunk when he did so, and she was
afraid to go back. Her husband had got some
property and some sheep. He was a dealer.
Defendant (to his wife): Haven't I been a
genuine husband to you? - You have been all
right at times, but not always.
Haven't I worked? - You have worked, but
you have not treated me properly.
Did you say that I wanted another woman
in the house? - You said I could not look after
the children properly, but you knew of some-
body who would, and that I could go.
Mrs. Katherine Matthews, Mill House, Dean's
Hill, Bredgar, said she had known defendant
for about three years. On Tuesday last he
came up in a taxi and was the worse for drink.
He asked to see Mrs. Goatham, and she told
him she was out. Hen then asked her if she
would go for a ride with him, which, of course,
she refused to do. She saw him again early
on the Wednesday morning, when he was not
drunk, but he was muddled. (Laughter.) She
saw him about five o'clock the same day, when
his condition was about the same. On Friday
she saw him again, and he was sober.
Defendant, who elected to give evidence on
oath, said they had been married 19 years, and
like the rest of married couples had had slight
tiffs and ups-and-downs. The present proceed-
ings, he said, were a planned plot. He had
been invalided out of the Army with a good
character. He had suffered from rheumatism
and neuritis, and had had 30 week' illness at
a stretch. All he could say was that one was
as bad as the other.
The Chairman: You admit you were bad
then.
Defendant said he wasted half
his time in public-houses, which was entirely
false. He had offered to take her back, and was
fully prepared to forget and forgive. He al-
leged that these proceedings were planned by
people who were trying to entice his wife away
from him.
Mr. Mowll: Would it be true to say you are
more often drunk than sober? - No, it would
not.
You have never been drunk? - I might have
been occasionally, but very seldom.
In answer to the Chairman, Superintendent
Hoare said the allegations as to defendant's
drinking habits were quite true.
Mr. G. F. Jacques, Police Court Missioner,
said although he knew defendant by sight, he
knew nothing about his domestic affairs until
about ten days ago. When he saw him there
appeared to be no sense or reason in him, and
he was under the influence of drink. He had
come to his (Mr. Jacques') house twice since,
and once in an insulting manner. Witness had
done his best, but the wife refused to go back.
The Chairman told defendant that until he
changed his habits the Bnech would have to
make an order. He would have to pay £2 a
week, 7/6 in respect of each child, and the
balance to the wife.
Defendant said he was willing to let his wife
and children have the house, and he would find
fresh lodings.
The Chairman: You have got to stop this
drinking, or you will very soon come to a bad
end. You come from a very good family, and
you must try to uphold it. We hope you and
your wife will come together again later on.
Mr. Jacques said he would follow the case
up, and do his best."
(from The East Kent Gazette, Saturday, November 14, 1925, p. 2, col. 3)
Sadly the Chairman's comments re Percy coming to a bad end would come true less than 18 months later.
Family ID F364 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family Sidney George WELLBY, b. 8 Feb 1916, Sheppey Reg Dist, Sheppey, Kent, England , d. Oct 1989, Chatham Reg Dist, Kent, England (Age 73 years) Married Sep Q 1940 Holy Trinity Church, Sittingbourne, Kent, England - GRO ref: Wellby, Sidney G to Goatham, Lilian M q3 1940 Milton RD 2a 4812
Children2 children Last Modified 18 Dec 2019 Family ID F3582 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- Assumed lived in Borden from her birth in 1919 to 1925 (when her mother sought a separation). At 1 Duvards Place at the time of the 1921 census and when her mother sought a separation late in 1925; may not have been at that address her whole time in Borden.
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Residence - From 1919 to 1925 - 1, Duvards Place, Pond Farm Lane, Borden, Kent, England 
Born - 20 May 1919 - 1, Duvards Place, Pond Farm Lane, Borden, Kent, England 
Married - Sep Q 1940 - Holy Trinity Church, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 
Child - Linda WELLBY - 28 Dec 1947 - Sheppey Reg Dist, Sheppey, Kent, England 
Died - 22 Jan 2008 - Eye, Suffolk, England 
Probate - 20 Mar 2008 - Brighton, Sussex, England = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install) Pin Legend 
