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Ralph MUSCHAMP

Ralph MUSCHAMP

Male 1508 - 1559  (50 years)    Has 8 ancestors and 10 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Ralph MUSCHAMP 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born 8 Dec 1508 
    • Shown in Surrey vis as oldest son.
      Allport (1841) citing an old pedigree in the British Museum records:
      "Itm. Raff Muschamp my Eldest son was borne the viij Daye of Decemb.
      the xxiiijth yere of kyng Henry the vijth And his godfathers was Raff Aleght
      of the Temple And Razaing fforde And his godmother Kateryn welbek his
      gradar ...."
    Gender Male 
    Died 1559 
    • Between writing his will and it being proved
    Buried 1559  St. Giles’ Church, Camberwell, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From Boyd's London Burials index
    Will 27 Sep 1559 
    Written 
    Probate 7 Nov 1559  Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Siblings 2 brothers and 1 sister 
    Half-siblings 7 half brothers and 5 half sisters (family of William MUSCHAMP and Elizabeth HARMONDE
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    MUSCHAMP,   d. Yes, date unknown  (2 x Great Grandfather) 
    Elizabeth SANDS,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Mother) 
    Person ID I24803  All
    Last Modified 16 Jan 2018 

    Father William MUSCHAMP, Esq.,   b. 10 Aug 1480,   d. Abt 1542  (Age 61 years)
    Other Partners: Elizabeth HARMONDE;   Agnes SCOTT  m. Bef 1520  
    Mother Elizabeth SANDS,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Other Partners: Nicholas MYNS  
    Married Est 1506 
    • William was married more than once, and the Collectanea topographica et genealogica ('CTG') and The visitations of the county of Surrey ('Surrey vis') disagree about which wife was the mother of William, while a number of children are not assigned a mother by either source.
      Surrey vis. shows Elizabeth Sands as the mother of Raffe and John.

      A book "Collections Illustrative of the Geology, History, Antiquities, and Associations of Camberwell and the Neighbourhood", by Douglas Allport, published in 1841 agrees with the Surrey vis, saying on p.153
      "An old pedigree in the British Museum, gives this account ...
      "William Muschamp, of Camberwell, in co' Surr' maried to his 1 wife, the da: of Scott, but had no issue by her." By "the wydowe of Nynnes," his second wife, he had two sons, Rafe and John; and by his third lady, who is described as "da : of Harman," he had "four more, Richard, Edward, Thomas, and Xpofer, or Christopher, ..."

      I am following this for the moment, for the sons, and assigning the daughters according to where they fall within the sequence of sons. However the account misses 3 sons given in the list of births, two Williams and a Francis. Francis and the older William probably died in infancy; Francis and the younger William can be assigned a mother according to their birth dates, but the older William as well as one daughter Mary were born between the sons assigned in Allport. Mostly both of William's wifes Elizabeth had one child a year, at least for the first few years of marriage. However, between John (son of Elizabeth Sands) and the older William there was about a 3 year gap, and another similar gap between the older William and Mary. One of these is probably due to the gap between William being widowered and remarrying. It seems most likely that this was the second gap, the first may have been due to Elizabeth Sands' health declining. Since neither the older William nor Mary had children if I have assigned them wrongly it doesn't make anyone else's ancestors wrong. Since all sources show Elizabeth Sands, alias the 'widow Nynnes' as the mother of John I hope I am correct in showing her as my 12 x great grandmother.

      CTG shows Elizabeth's surname as Sandys, and mother of Raffe, Christopher, John, William and Edith.

      I hope there may be surviving wills or other documents for members of the wives families which may clarify this.
    Family ID F9623  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family Isabell,   bur. 29 Aug 1584, St. Giles’ Church, Camberley, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Married
    Children
    +1. Francis MUSCHAMP,   b. Est 1540,   d. Abt 1617  (Age ~ 77 years)
     
    Last Modified 21 Aug 2017 
    Family ID F9638  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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