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Mary Ann SOLLY

Mary Ann SOLLY

Female Abt 1836 - 1892  (~ 56 years)    Has 4 ancestors and 15 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Mary Ann SOLLY 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Abt 1836  Yorkshire, Northdown, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Abt 1840 from the 1881 census where shown as aged 40, but about 1837 from age on marriage PR entry, shown as 25.
      Shown as born St. Peter's in the 1861 and 1871 censuses, but Margate in 1881 and Yorkshire in 1871! Was Yorkshire to hide her identity due to a bigamous marriage? - I think it was probably a misunderstanding by the enumerator. In 1891 she appears as born 'York, Northdown' - with 'York' struck through. Looking at an old map shows a 'Yorkshire Farm' within the hamlet of North Down. Significantly, whilst most of Northdown was within the parish of St. John's (Margate), Yorkshire Farm was the other side of the parish boundary, i.e. within St. Peter's parish - where the earlier censuses show Mary as born. I think it is safe to conclude that all the censuses point to the same place: Yorkshire in the hamlet of Northdown, within St. Peter's Parish.
    Baptised 30 Oct 1836  St. Peter’s Church, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 17 Jul 2019)
    Gender Female 
    Died Jun Q 1892  Eastry Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Found in the 1891 census, but not in later ones. Her husband had remarried by 1901, suggesting she had died.
      She was living in Eastry RD in 1891, there are two deaths there of a Mary Ann of the right age to be her, but only one before 1901:
      GRO ref: Griggs, Mary Ann q2 1892 aged 56 Eastry RD 2a 525
    Siblings 1 sister 
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    Michael SOLLY,   b. Abt 1806, Northdown, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec Q 1888, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 82 years)  (Father) 
    Elizabeth,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Grandmother) 
    Person ID I28971  All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study
    Last Modified 31 Jan 2020 

    Father Michael SOLLY,   b. Abt 1806, Northdown, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec Q 1888, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 82 years) 
    Mother Mary Ann HERITAGE,   b. 4 May 1809, Reading Street, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married
    • Both the censuses and the baptism registers suggest Michael and Mary Ann had just the two children, or at least just two who were baptised. Given the long gap between Sarah's birth and baptism and the high rates of infant mortality it is possible they had others who died without being baptised. (I have not checked the burial register)
    Family ID F11178  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Stephen EPPS,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 28 Jan 1855  St. Peter’s Church, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: EPPS, Stephen to SOLLY, Mary Ann q1 1855 Thanet RD 2a 682
      Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 16 Jul 2019)
    Children
     1. Emily Elizabeth EPPS,   b. Jun Q 1855, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     
    Last Modified 16 Jul 2019 
    Family ID F11174  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 James GRIGGS,   b. Dec Q 1837, Mutrix, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Aug 1912, Holly Lodge, Lower Whitfield, Dover, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 75 years) 
    Other Partners: Louisa  m. Mar Q 1893 
    Married 11 Apr 1862  St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Griggs, James to Epps, Mary Elizabeth q2 1862 Thanet RD 2a 993
      Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 16 July 2019)
      With a mother's maiden name of Solly recorded in the birth registration for their children, I searched for the marriage of a James Griggs to a Mary Ann Solly, and similar. I found none, suggesting Mary had married under a different surname. Fortunately the 1881 census shows a daughter not found by searching for Griggs with a mother's maiden name of Solly. In her case the mother's maiden name was recorded as Epps. It is not uncommon for a woman's previous married name to be recorded instead of her maiden name, or if she was known by two names before marrying for both to be used on the registrations of birth of different children. With Mary most likely having married James as a widow I looked for a Mary Ann SOLLY to an EPPS and found the one shown here. This not only fits what I was looking for, but Stephen and Mary Ann are not found in the 1861 or subsequent censuses, suggesting the marriage was not a coincidence involving a different Mary Ann SOLLY. Also, looking for EPPS birth registrations with a mother's maiden name of SOLLY found just the one, so nothing to rule out Mary Ann as the one who married James. At the time of the 1861 census Mary Ann and her daughter were with her parents, in 1871 her daughter was still (or again) with them; again nothing to rule out Mary Ann wife of Stephen as the one who married James. The death of a suitably aged Stephen EPPS between 1855 and 1862 would add weight to my theory that the two Mary Anns are one and the same. However, there is none in the death registration index. At first I thought he was probably a marineror fisherman or similar and had died at sea - no body, no death registration (or burial). However, when he married Mary Ann he was recorded as a thatcher. So had he died? - that is, was Mary Ann free to remarry?
      I returned to looking for the marriage of James Griggs, this time to a widow Mary Epps rather than a spinster Mary Solly. I found one which half fits: it records spinster Mary Elizabeth EPPS, daughter of Michael EPPS. Was this coincidence, the marriage of a different James Griggs (there were quite a few in the area). I don't think it was.
      If the priest had mistakenly thought she was a spinster and recorded her as such and therefore assumed her father's surname this would not explain the middle name. Was she marrying bigamously and changing small details to hide this? I think she was.
      My reasons for thinking Mary Ann who
      1. Father's Christian name of Michael for both brides; not the commonest of names (both also record him as a labourer but this is so common it adds little weight to the argument)
      2. A witness at both marriages was a Sarah Elizabeth Solly - Mary Ann Solly had a sister with this name, and most often witnesses were siblings.
      3. In the 1861 census Mary Ann EPPS née SOLLY is living in Northdown Road; when she married 'Mary Elizabeth EPPS' place of residence is shown as Northdown.
      3. I can find no other marriage of a James Griggs to a Mary Ann to fit.
      4. I can find no baptism of an Mary Elizabeth Epps to fit.
      5. If this marriage is the right one but spinster Mary Elizabeth EPPS is not really widow Mary Ann EPPS née SOLLY then why does she appear as Mary A in the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses?
    Children 5 children 
    Last Modified 17 Jul 2019 
    Family ID F11166  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1836 - Yorkshire, Northdown, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 30 Oct 1836 - St. Peter’s Church, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Emily Elizabeth EPPS - Jun Q 1855 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 28 Jan 1855 - St. Peter’s Church, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 11 Apr 1862 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - William James GRIGGS - Sep Q 1865 - Northdown, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Verona Martha GRIGGS - Mar Q 1869 - Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - George Michael GRIGGS - Sep Q 1871 - Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - John GRIGGS - Dec Q 1873 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Maud Mary GRIGGS - Mar Q 1877 - Ramsgate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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