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Elizabeth GOTHAM

Elizabeth GOTHAM

Female 1708 - Yes, date unknown    Has 11 ancestors and one descendant in this family tree.


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  • Name Elizabeth GOTHAM 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Baptised 27 Jan 1707/08  St. John the Baptist Church, Paignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 15 Nov 2014)
      Shown as daughter of William
    Gender Female 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Buried
    • Elizabeth and her husband's names were too common in the area to be sure what became of them.
      There appear to have been no children born to the couple after Susanna, (from FMP, 3 Aug 2021 - the majority of PRs for the area in some way on FMP, but a few not covered, some not even surviving).
      The lack of more baptisms could be due to Elizabeth dying soon after. I suspect it was her daughter Susanna who married in Broadhempston; if the family moved there soon after Susanna's birth Elizabeth could have been the Elizabeth Webber buried there in 1739. Alternatively she could have been buried in Torbryan in 1740. Or, if they remained very close to Newton Abbot there were Elizabeth Webbers buried in Highweek in 1781 and 1785. None of the burial records includes any indication of whether the subject was adult or child, single, wife or widow. There were also a number of other burials of Elizabeth Webbers within the likely time period within 5 miles of Wolborough - and they could have moved further.
    Siblings 5 brothers and 6 sisters 
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    GOTHAM,   d. Bef 1613  (2 x Great Grandfather) 
    Jane,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Grandmother) 
    Person ID I300158  All | All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , All subjects of the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study
    Last Modified 3 Aug 2021 

    Father William GOTHAM,   bap. 17 Jul 1673, St. John the Baptist Church, Marldon, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 19 Mar 1729/30, St. John the Baptist Church, Paignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 56 years) 
    Mother Margery ALWARD,   bap. 19 Feb 1679/80, The Church, St. Marychurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 7 Aug 1748, St. Mary the Virgin Church, Wolborough, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Married 10 Jun 1701  St. John the Baptist Church, Paignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 15 Nov 2014)
      This shows the groom as Richard Gotham.

      Why I think the marriage recorded as of Richard was actually the marriage of William

      I suspected Richard was a son of Timothy and showed him as such for sometime, but the lack of both a baptism and a burial record for Richard together with the lack of a marriage record for William made me wonder (and add a note to this tree) suggesting that William and Richard might be the same person. I think the evidence I have seen is now sufficient for me to be fairly sure sure they were, so I have merged the two.

      In addition to the lacking records, the date and the Christian name of the bride are right for William:
        
      * When William's brother John died in 1735, his will meant that a guardian was needed for William's son Timothy and he (Timothy) desired his mother to be assigned - and she is named as Margery. Margery was the name of "Richard's" wife.

      * William's first child was baptised in December 1701, suggesting that he had most likely married in 1700 or 1701 - especially as they seem to have been a very fertile couple, with no large gaps between children.
      The record of the marriage of "Richard" was in June 1701.

      * Lastly the location of the marriage of "Richard" ties in with William. See research notes attached to William for evidence that it was William, the son of Timothy, who lived in Paignton.

      The one piece of evidence against William and Richard being one person, is that if there was no brother of William called Richard, then why did William give the name to a son? The names William, John and Timothy are all names of close family of William. I think his wife Margery was the daughter of a William and had a brother James, which just leaves the name Richard as not obviously the name of a close relation. Given that I haven't found the marriage of Margery's parents there could have been another brother Richard baptized in the parish where they were married, probably not yet online or where the PRs don't survive.
      But of course William had moved from Marldon where most of his close family lived. He must have had friends in Paignton. Maybe a close friend was best man at the wedding and godfather to his son. Or (perhaps more likely) maybe an Uncle Richard on his mother's side was a significant figure in William's life; perhaps Richard he was childless and was the reason for William moving to Paignton - to be apprenticed to or work with him.

      Whilst I am now highly confident that Richard and William are one and the same, if I could find that Margery or William had a close relation or other link to a Richard I would feel that bit more satisfied that William's 'brother Richard' did not exist.
    Residence to 1731  Paignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    William and Margery and family 
    • All of William and Margery's children were baptised in Paignton (1701-1721), five of the children died in infancy (1706-1720) and were buried there as was William in 1729/30. In 1730 eldest daughter Mary was married there, and in December 1731 fifteen year old son John was buried there. Exactly three weeks later Mary too was buried.
    Residence From 1735  Wolborough, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Margery moved the family 
    • It appears that Margery and most of her surviving children moved from Paignton to Wolborough, probably between December 1731 and March 1735/6.
      Four of Margery's children married, the first in 1735/6 - and all married in Wolborough. None of them was shown as 'of' another parish. Then in 1748 that is where Margery was buried.

      With the loss of so many of her children at a young age, as well as her husband Margery may have been seeking to move to somewhere healthier. Her husband may have depended on the sea for his livlihood. Margery and her children did not. Her daughters could probably have found domestic work anywhere, son William was a shoemaker, and would probably have served an apprenticeship by the time the family moved, son James' fate is unknown, while the youngest Timothy's occupation may have been yet to be decided.
    Family ID F300044  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family Thomas WEBBER,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 9 Mar 1735/36  St. Mary the Virgin Church, Wolborough, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From FMP
      I am guessing it was this Elizabeth who married Thomas as when Gothams reappear in Wolborough after a gap of 2 or 3 generations the others are children of William 'of Marldon'.
    Children
     1. Susanna WEBBER,   bap. 27 Oct 1738, St. Mary the Virgin Church, Wolborough, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     
    Last Modified 24 Oct 2020 
    Family ID F300243  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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