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Thomas GOTHAM

Thomas GOTHAM

Male 1790 - 1850  (~ 59 years)    Has 12 ancestors and 158 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Thomas GOTHAM 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born
    • The Thomas who married Susanna Carr is only found in the 1841 census, so from the censuses we just learn that he not born in Lancashire. With his rounded down given as 50, that indicates he was born about 1786-1791 (though this was by no means always accurate, and some seem to have rounded up instead).
      I believe he was the Thomas baptised in Ipplepen in 1790 as:
      - the date fits;
      - there is no further sign of Ipplepen Thomas in Devon;
      - Ipplepen Thomas had a father called William, the name Thomas and Susanna gave their first son;
      - after his 2nd son was given his own name, his 3rd son was given the less common name Matthew, that same as that of the other brother of Ipplepen Thomas;
      - Ipplepen Thomas had a brother William, who appears to have migrated to the Midlands; one of this Thomas's sons married a Simcock, sister to a Simcock that one of William's sons married. This is too much to be co-incidence, and suggests a close link between Thomas and William (though of course such a link could exist between cousins, not just brothers)
    Baptised 31 Oct 1790  St. Andrew’s Church, Ipplepen, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From FMP
    Gender Male 
    Occupation From 1826 to 1831 
    Mariner 
    • At the time of his marriage and when his daughter Susanna was baptised.
    Occupation 1834 
    Labourer 
    • When his son Thomas was baptised.
    Census 1841  Brooks Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence From 1841 to 1844  Brooks Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Abode given as Brooks Street in the 1841 census, when Thomas and Susannah's daughter Mary was born in 1843 and when a piece of land with 28 houses etc including theirs was sold in 1844.

      The sale of the land and houses was advertised in the Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser on 26 Nov and 3 Dec 1844.
      "by order of the mortgagees.
      Valuable freehold and leasehold property in Slater-Street and Fleet-street, Brooks-street, Castle-street, Derry Square, and Lower Castle-street, in Liverpool.
      By Messrs. T. Winstanley and Sons,
      On Wednesday, the 11th December instrant, at One o'clock in the Afternoon, at the Clarendon-rooms, South John-strret, in Liverpool, - subject to such conditions as will be then produced. 
      Lot 1. ...
      2. All that Piece of Land, situate on the south side of Brooks-street, in Liverpool, with Twenty-eight Messuages or Dwelling-Houses, and Cottages, and other conveniences erected thereon, consisting of Five Houses to the front of Brooks-street, Eleven Houses in Queen's-court, Ten Houses in Princes-court, and Two Houses in Kings-court, in the several occupations of - Gotham, - Musker, - Lowe, - Marr, and others.
      This lot presents a desirable investment, the gross annual rental at present exceeds £242.
      Lot 3. - ..."
    Occupation From 1841 to 1850 
    Warehouseman 
    • Recorded in the census, when his children Matthew, George and Mary were baptised and on his death certificate.
    Residence 1845  19, Standish Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Recorded as the residence of his sons William and Thomas (aged 17 and 11) in the evening school admission register; it seems reasonable to assume Thomas and his whole immediate family were living there.
    Residence 1850  13, Maghull Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Given as his abode at the time of his death
    Died 13 Feb 1850  13, Maghull Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Cause: Bronchitis/Effusion into the cavity of the Chest - 6 weeks 
    • GRO ref: Gotham, Thomas, q1 1850 Liverpool RD 20 339; GRO online index shows died aged 59
      This Thomas was alive at the time of the 1841 census but not at the time of the 1851, so this death fits, and the gravestone details show it was this Thomas who died in q1 1850.
    Buried 17 Feb 1850  St. Nicholas’ Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From the PR entry (image on Ancestry, viewed 10 July 2018)Also BT entry:
      Thomas Gotham, Age: 59, Abode: Maghull St., Ceremony performed by: N. Maynard Off. Minister
      From BT entry for St. Nicholas Church, Liverpool, 1850 p.1, entry no. 1187, as filmed by LDS (Film 1068892), and details online on the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website

      Although not buried there (being buried before burial in the city's churchyards was ended and cemeterys created) Thomas is remembered on a gravestone in Toxteth Park Cemetery with his wife and 3 grandchildren. The gravestone is a large upright sand-stone, with a round top and flowers on shoulders and has the inscription:

      Sacred
      to
      the memory of
      Thomas GOTHAM,
      who died February 13th
      1850
      aged 59 years.
      And Susannah,
      who died on Christmas eve 1861,
      aged 58 years.
      Also Thomas William James,
      who died February 16th 1862,
      aged 8 months.
      And Ellen Susannah,
      who died June 9th 1867,
      aged 2 years and 9 months.
      Children of
      Matthew and Eliza GOTHAM.
      Also Matthew Thomas George GOTHAM,
      son of the above,
      who died 23rd Novr 1884,
      aged 22 years.
      *His end was peace.*
    Siblings 2 brothers and 2 sisters 
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    Andrew GOTHAM,   b. Est 1585, (probably), Abbotskerswell, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 10 Mar 1673/74, St. Mary the Virgin Church, Wolborough, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 89 years)  (3 x Great Grandfather) 
    Elizabeth WARD,   bap. 10 Mar 1716/17, All Saints’ Church, Highweek, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Grandmother) 
    Notes 
    • (Research):Any references referring to a mariner Thomas Gotham in Liverpool should be treated with caution - there was another Thomas Gotham, also a mariner, present in Liverpool at the same (or at least overlapping) time.
    Person ID I302586  All | All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , All subjects of the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study
    Last Modified 28 Jun 2024 

    Father William GOTHAM,   bap. 14 Oct 1750, St. Bartholomew’s Church, East Ogwell, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 10 Jun 1808, St. Andrew’s Church, Ipplepen, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 57 years) 
    Mother Mary RENDLE,   bap. 9 Dec 1746, St. Bartholomew’s Church, East Ogwell, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 1 Apr 1816, St. Andrew’s Church, Ipplepen, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Married 17 Dec 1775  St. Bartholomew’s Church, East Ogwell, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 13 Nov 2014)
      "Banns of Marriage between William Gotham Sojr: & Mary Rendle of this Parish were publish'd on three several Sundays wthout Contradiction
      No. 89
      William Gotham a sojour
      and Mary Rendle of this
      Parish were
      Married in this Church by Banns
      this seventeenth Day of December in the Year One Thousand Seven
      Hundred and seventy five by me Thos. Prout Rector
      This Marriage was solemnized between Us The mark X of Wm. Gotham, The mark \\ of Mary  Rendle
      In the Presence of John Jinny(?), John Knatman"
    Proof Argument That is was William son of Matthew and Jane who married Mary RENDLE 
    • William, son of Matthew and Jane, came from East Ogwell and yet the PR entry for this marriage shows William described as a sojourner. So was it this William? I believe it was. I would suggest that he had moved away and then briefly back to the parish before his marriage. The first 4 children from this marriage were baptised in Wolborough (Newton Abbot) and so it is reasonable to suppose that William had found work there, married a bride from his home parish, and then settled with her near / in Wolborough, possibly later moving to Ipplepen Parish. It is possible they lived in Ipplepen Parish the whole time; the baptism of their first child although in Wolborough records them as of Ipplepen, although this was not subsequently noted.

      The names that William who married Mary Rendle gave his sons does suggest he was the son of Matthew and Jane; assuming he was, he named his first son Matthew, like his father and a brother, the second, William, like himself, and the third Thomas, like his other brother.
    Proof Argument That the children shown were all offspring of this William and Mary 
    • Were all the children the offspring of this couple? A William Gotham was baptised in Ipplepen in 1768; clearly he could not have been the William who married Mary Rendle, but he would have been old enough to have had a son Thomas baptised in 1790 and / or could have been the William buried in Ipplepen in 1808. 
      With no signs of a marriage of another William that I know of, I think Thomas was the son of this William (from East Ogwell) and Mary.
      Widow Mary buried in Ipplepen in 1816 was born about 1746 - early enough that it was very unlikely she was the wife of the William baptised in 1768. In addition, William and Mary disappear from East Ogwell and must have gone somewhere, and an Elizabeth who fits as their daughter married in Ipplepen. The best evidence that they moved to Ipplepen may be that Matthew, the mariner who fits as their son, is shown first as of East Ogwell and then later as of Ipplepen in crew lists (the ages given in the different references suggest they are to the same Matthew). Whilst that makes Thomas being their son more likely it does not confirm it.
      More evidence can be found by looking at the family of William bap 1768. It is clear that he was the son of John and Elizabeth née Pinson. He was probably the 2nd cousin once removed of the William who married Mary Rendle. However, he had no brother Matthew nor any close Gotham relation with that name, a name far less common that William / John / Thomas. Yet the Thomas bap in 1790 after naming a son William (like his father) and another Thomas (his own name) gave his third son the name Matthew. In addition, one of Thomas' sons married Eliza Simcock, sister of Elizabeth Simcock who married one of the sons of William, son of William and Mary née Rendle. Both were living in large towns, about 50 miles apart so the chance of these marriages happening by chance must be vanishingly small. It is surely far more likely that the two Gothams would have married the Simcock sisters if they were 1st cousins and not 4th cousins?
    Family ID F300234  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family Susannah CARR,   b. Abt 1803, Ireland See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Dec 1861, 44, Prussia Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 58 years) 
    Married 14 Sep 1826  St. Peter’s Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on Ancestry, viewed 27 Aug 2018)
      Both of Liverpool, Thomas a mariner, Susannah a spinster, by banns.
      Thomas signed, Susannah made her mark, witnesses William Codling and William Maybrick
    Children 7 children 
    Last Modified 28 Aug 2023 
    Family ID F300056  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 31 Oct 1790 - St. Andrew’s Church, Ipplepen, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 14 Sep 1826 - St. Peter’s Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - William James GOTHAM - 30 Jan 1828 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Ann GOTHAM - 28 Aug 1829 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Susanna GOTHAM - 9 Dec 1831 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Thomas GOTHAM - Abt 1834 - Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Matthew GOTHAM - Abt 1836 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - George GOTHAM - 1840 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild - Mary GOTHAM - Jun Q 1843 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 17 Feb 1850 - St. Nicholas’ Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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