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Alice BAKER

Alice BAKER

Female 1846 - 1928  (~ 82 years)    Has 2 ancestors and 53 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Alice BAKER 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Dec Q 1846  Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Baker, Alice q4 1846  Milton RD 5 432; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as Shoot
    Baptised 14 Feb 1847  St. Margaret of Antioch’s Church, Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 21 Jul 2022)
      Shown as Alice Baker, dau of Thomas and Eliza, Thomas shown as a mariner
    Gender Female 
    Census 30 Mar 1851  Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 7 Apr 1861  Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 2 Apr 1871  Rose Cottage, London Road, Borden, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 3 Apr 1881  Billett House, London Road, Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  Billett Cottage, 19, London Road, Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  Billett Cottage, Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 2 Apr 1911  12, Lloyd Square, Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Died Jun Q 1928  Milton Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • (Still alive at the time of the 1911 census)
      GRO ref: Kemp, Alice q2 1928 aged 80 Milton RD 2a 1331
    Siblings 1 brother and 5 sisters 
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    Thomas BAKER,   b. 1808, Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun Q 1886, Milton Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years)  (Father) 
    Eliza SHOOT,   b. 1818, Harwich, Essex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep Q 1891, The Union Workhouse, Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years)  (Mother) 
    Person ID I3698  All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2023 

    Father Thomas BAKER,   b. 1808, Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun Q 1886, Milton Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years) 
    Mother Eliza SHOOT,   b. 1818, Harwich, Essex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep Q 1891, The Union Workhouse, Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years) 
    Married Sep Q 1844  Tendring Reg Dist, Essex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: BAKER, Thomas to SHOOT, Eliza q3 1844 Tendring RD 12 383
      Details from transcribed data on Ancestry (from PRs held in the Essex Record Office, viewed 21 Jul 2022)
      Shows Thomas BAKER, son of John BAKER married Eliza SHOOT, daughter of John SHOOT.
    Family ID F2848  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 John MOORE,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Banns of marriage From 16 Aug 1868 to 30 Aug 1868  St. Margaret of Antioch’s Church, Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Although no marriage followed, the Banns were read all 3 times.
    Married? Not married or evidence to suggest they didn't marry 
    Notes 
    • In August 1868 the banns of marriage were read for the marriage of Alice Baker of Halstow, spinster, almost certainly this Alice Baker, to one John Moore, bacheloar, also of Halstow. No marriage followed.
      Alice's daughter Clara may have been his daughter. Assuming Clara was not premature, then Alice must have been about 6 months pregnant when the banns were first read, if the date on her birth certificate is accurate. It would seem the pregnancy was probably obvious, and may well have been the reason John and Alice got engaged. If they were only getting married because of the pregnancy without a desire to do so, that maybe the reason (the underlying one, at least) why the marriage did not happen. Of course it is also possible that John learnt of another man in Alice's life, that the child might not be his, and that is why the marriage did not take place.

      Unfortunately there was no John Moore in Lower Halstow in the 1861 or 1871 census, but quite a few in the slightly wider area that he could well have been from, and of a suitable age. (I have not investigated thoroughly to try to work out which John Moore Alice nearly married, and do not plan to).
    Children
    +1. Clara Ellen BAKER, [Father?],   b. 12 Nov 1868, Lower Halstow, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Mar 1920, 12, Lloyd Square, Sittingbourne, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 51 years)
    Charles Henry GOATHAM  m. 4 Oct 1890
     
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2023 
    Family ID F2847  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Thomas KEMP,   b. Dec Q 1849, Rodmersham, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec Q 1933, Milton Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 84 years) 
    Banns of marriage From 11 Sep 1870 to 25 Sep 1870  St. Peter and St. Paul’s Church, Borden, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From KFHS transcribed data
      (shows they were bachelor and spinster, both 'of this parish')
    Married 9 Oct 1870  St. Peter and St. Paul’s Church, Borden, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Baker, Alice to Kemp, Thomas; q4 1870 Milton RD 2a 1229

      Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 21 Jul 2022)

      The 1911 census shows that 5 children had been born to the marriage. I think this must include Clara, although clearly not born to the marriage, and I think most likely not Thomas' daughter. There is a gap between their children born 1874 and 1878, but although several KEMPs with a mother's maiden name of BAKER were born in Milton RD c. 1876, the two most likely can  be ruled out as sons of two other KEMP / BAKER couples.

      The 1911 census shows that 5 children had been born to the marriage, of whom 4 were still living. This may or may not include Clara.
    Children 4 children 
    Last Modified 21 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F4932  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart